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Re: Rampage's Plot Suggestion « Reply #15 on Jun 13, 2008, 1:43pm »
I just realized that if you can't attack his pack then it only leaves mine considering Scarcron's pack has dropped to only two members. Unless the Malvagio want to pick on the weakest pack.
Who’s Pensive? Thought I made this Board so NO guests can post in here... hm oh well
Now I NEVER put in a rule saying that "we may have pack wars" NEVER, and if any one put that rule in there I will remove it, it is the MEMBERS choice if they want there wolf in a pack fight or war. Rules can’t just be thrown in like that, they must be reasonable rules.
the only thing i said related to war is "if you want to start a pack war PM WhiteWolf or Aleu"
And to this plot here is too much of a major plot. Plots like these commonly or most likely will CLOSE a site when the plot is done, I do not want that, this site is ment to last for ever, a long term site, not a short term site.
If you read carefully you will see what I mean, a pack WAR and a plot like this will surly close a site, this is why I disagree with this plot, and I will strongly hold that.
This is the reason I said the staff have to agree on this plot, I am not about to let this site become a short term site, I hope you can see what I mean.
Actually Whitewolf, Rules also have to be realistic in this kind of a setting. where there are multiple packs, there are pack wars, it's unavoidable as is nature, so even though it may not be an official rule, it's the laws of nature, which in a site like this, need to be obeyed. And yeah, the Argento pack is now open again seeing that the Alpha is back and is muse ready.
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Re: Rampage's Plot Suggestion « Reply #17 on Aug 7, 2008, 12:11pm »
yes yes, but this site is suppose to be peaceful, not some Site for wars, prophecies, and Havoc. i had not intention, and I don't like the idea of wolves killing one another in this site, for another site yes because thats the owners decision. but for killing wolves is why I made it so its ok with the owner for some one to kill there wolf.
I made this site for people to have fun in a peaceful way, for people to come and have fun and a good time, but having pack wars practically changes all that, i already had a site turn from peaceful to warlike on me once. normally when i create a site, the way i make it and what i made it for will always stand. this site was made for people to have fun have a good time, it was suppose to be a peaceful site.
though it is to late, but I don't like it when the reason for one of my sites is changed to the compleat opposite of what I made it for.
yes yes, but this site is suppose to be peaceful, not some Site for wars, prophecies, and Havoc. i had not intention, and I don't like the idea of wolves killing one another in this site, for another site yes because thats the owners decision. but for killing wolves is why I made it so its ok with the owner for some one to kill there wolf.
I made this site for people to have fun in a peaceful way, for people to come and have fun and a good time, but having pack wars practically changes all that, i already had a site turn from peaceful to warlike on me once. normally when i create a site, the way i make it and what i made it for will always stand. this site was made for people to have fun have a good time, it was suppose to be a peaceful site.
though it is to late, but I don't like it when the reason for one of my sites is changed to the compleat opposite of what I made it for.
The proper way to administor a site, is not to be a totalitarien, and try to control every aspect of what happens. The admin and the staff are only here to keep things running smooth, and make sure that rules are being followed. You may not like it, but you can't make a rule that says no clan is going to declare war on another because that takes everything interesting out of a site. Yeah sites can be peaceful, but I have never seen a successful site that doesn't have a plot that resolves around a war at some point.
Also keeping in mind, people won't join a site for which the admin, (especially a site with low numbers to begin with) try to control everything, and completely and utterly go against almost every other member on the site. These are real wolves with no magical properties living in real lands. There for they must abide by real nature. Besides, you think that although they may not kill, that wolves of a pack won't injure another? that's even worse that killing because then the word gets back to the pack leaders, who then launch a full assualt on the other pack. It called a chain of events.
an example:
A wolf enters a free land. A second wolf of another pack enters, Notices the other wolf, They start talking, find out they are indeed from other packs, the one wolf has had qualls with that pack before, or just doesn't like it in general, the wold attacks, but not kill, the other wolf the other wolf got back to pack, tells them that he's been attacked by this pack,
Gee.. I wonder what's going to happen next, they sure as hel aren't going to have a sit down and talk it over a beer. No, they are going to hold the other clan responsible, and by doing so they would attack them... because that's the only thing that any animal knows. Including real people. We either fight or run away. I'm all for the pack wars, because it's more naturalistic into what actually happens in the life of a wolf.
Also, I don't role-play on Totalitarian sites. I like sites where the admin are friendly, supportive, and actually care what the members want in a site.
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Re: Rampage's Plot Suggestion « Reply #19 on Aug 7, 2008, 3:23pm »
I’m not like that, I am kind, I will agree to most things, but war is not one of them. What happened to one of my sites is true, but I quickly died out because of what happened, and it became too hard to make sure everyone remains active. The last site was very similar to this one, and I do not want something like that to happen again, once was enough. But let’s not let this get over us, the plot was already agreed upon, but apparently did not get very far.
So what is there is there it’s too late to change it.
It just becomes too much to handle and it ends up with the site dyeing out, every site I went to when a plot was completed it ended up dyeing out, I don’t want that to happen here, so I am hoping this site does not die sense it’s too late to change it.
So let’s let this go, and well do or talk about something ells. Id prefer not to argue and debate, I would rather talk about something we agree upon.
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Re: Rampage's Plot Suggestion « Reply #20 on Aug 7, 2008, 5:31pm »
Okay, you two need to stop. This plot has already been decided on. It's okay to have wars as long as it's not with the WOTM. That's agreeable. I'm fine with it. I think we were planning something between the Malvagio and Nevicare but it will wait since Rampage can't be on very much. Also, it seems that Bealis kinda dissappeared...
Anyway, the point is, this plot is perfectly fine sine the rules were followed. "if you want to start a pack war PM WhiteWolf or Aleu"
I'm Aleu, and sure enough it will be on my pack, so there it is. WW, we already told you that we will not allow it to end the site. A war won't bring it down. If anything it would get people to be more active. Besides, like stated earlier in the thread, it doesn't have to be war right away. It can start with little fights or arguments and grow.
I might just close this thread later since this plot was already agreed upon. It WILL happen, just not right now since activity is rather low.